Re: [independence-1] Platform convention

Terry,

There can be no "one last time" for a great idea. People cling to the

comfort of the familiar and challenge change. Given the number of

half-baked and/or self-serving ideas "out there", it's understandable that

folks can become cynical and suspicious.

It's frustrating, to have thoroughly thought something through, only to

have it summarily rejected by another without any analysis or sometimes

even a scintilla of thought.

Keep trying. Put the 12 steps into circulation, and respond with logic, to

criticism. Some nay-sayers will be unpersuadable, as negative is what they

do.? Others may find flaws which just had never occurred to you.

Flaw-finders of that sort are actually allies in disguise.

D.C.?

--- Terrance Bushard <[address removed]> wrote:

Peter,

You certainly are confused. You say the choice is between giving up ?

on the country or doing something. If the "something" you do is the ?

wrong thing, what's the difference?

We have an accountability problem in this country and the IP's, and ?

your response, is to have a party! Good grief!

You have 2 choices.

You can either choose to be part of the solution to the ?

accountability problem by organizing for that purpose, or you can ?

choose to be part of the accountability problem by failing to do so.

Your actions to date tell me you choose to be part of the ?

accountability problem! Hopefully, that is because you have a hearing ?

problem, as in you choose not to hear.

One last time. I have a solution to the accountability problem. It is ?

simple, affordable and fool proof. Here it is.

http://www.americanvotersassociation.com

Respectfully

Terry Bushard

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On Jan 28, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Peter Tharaldson wrote:

Tim-

I am confused. The process we devised in 2005 worked well. We ?

considered planks and changes one by one. The member that spoke was ?

speaking against any additions to the platform.

One of the things that changed was to establish a base platform and ?

then consider changes...that allows for a greater hearing of any ?

changes...and in fact, unlike most platform conventions, we did get ?

through every proposed change. About 1/2 of the additions were ?

made, 1/2 failed.

Let's reintroduce your proposals on May 3rd. This time I think ?

considering them as divided proposals would work well. I understand ?

that they are all related to efficiencies from technology ?

improvement, but that is a lot of wording to digest and it would be ?

easier to handle them one by one.

The Platform gets another shot on May 3rd per the call of the ?

convention. Try it again...I would be happy to help divide them in ?

a stategic manner that would probably sell better.

Peter

As for not coming to the convention...it is always worth it. The ?

choice is between giving up on the country and the state or doing ?

something. We did a lot on Saturday....and maybe that was the ?

problem...but people were excited.

Tim Nelson <[address removed]> wrote:

I hope I never see a repeat of the behavior of a few of the "movers ?

and shakers" at the morning session of the platform convention. If ?

trying to prevent the motions for platform changes were not enough, ?

the grandstanding to testify against every change by one member ?

really took the cake.

Are you adults? Did you not know that a platform convention just ?

might get involved with the platform?

I considered leaving before my platform change came up. I felt that ?

I didn't belong in that room, or in the party. When my turn came, ?

my heart wasn't in it.

On a personal note, since my political viewpoint is so wrapped ?

around the downsizing of the public sector through new technology, ?

and the party is not, perhaps it would be for the best if I find ?

myself a seat outside the party.

It has been nice to meet, and talk to many of you, especially ?

Peter, Jack Uldrich, Peter Hutchinson, Red and the meetup groups.

Tim Nelson

Golden Valley

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